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Font with obsolete kana? 
21st-Mar-2014 09:56 pm
Hi again, I was trying to write a lesson about something for Japanese... the problem is that I don't have a font that includes the obsolete kana. By that, I mean yi and wu and so on.

As you can see here, they did really exist with their own forms:

I'm trying to search, but all I'm finding is fonts that include ゐ and ゑ (which are already included in Unicode anyway). I don't specifically want a font that looks like brush strokes, in fact I'd rather have a clean, modern-looking font, but can anyone find one for me? I figured that there must be a font out there that has them...

Here you can see a post I started making with examples of the older hiragana and katakana: http://hvitumavar.blog.se/japanese-original-50-kana-yi-ye-wu/
24th-Mar-2014 07:06 am (UTC)
Honestly, it might be easiest to do what Wikipedia does and just paste small images into your document. If they don't exist in unicode (and they don't seem to exist in (Shift) JIS or EUC either) then you're going to have severe issues not just because you need a font, but because you need to find an encoding that supports them as well and then hope that your word processor can handle that encoding--otherwise you can't even save them to a file.
24th-Mar-2014 08:24 pm (UTC)
Well, if there were a font that had them all I'd have to do would be write in that font, and save the resulting file as a PDF or other document that saves the font untouched along with the text. Even if it's on a website, just embedding the font and telling the page "use this font here" would work even if the readers don't have the font installed. So it's not that which is the problem. I do the same when I type in ᚱᚢᚾᚮᚱᚾᛆ haha.

Right now I gave up trying to find a font, I looked in Mojikyo which supposedly has it but I couldn't find them, so I started making my characters for one of the standrd Japanese fonts for Mac that was already on my computer and looked nice. I'm almost done, I think I have one left to make now.

By the way, I started making a list of pictures with the old ones here if you want to see. But I can't post links in comments or they'll be marked as spam, so I'll just edit my original post with the link at the bottom.
25th-Mar-2014 07:42 pm (UTC)
You can get the free font Koin変体仮名 www10(.)plala(.)or(.)jp/koin/koinhentaigana(.)html which has yi and ye under い and え. If you look for other 変体仮名 fonts you might get lucky?
25th-Mar-2014 09:20 pm (UTC)
Thanks! I started editing a basic font (ヒラギノ角ゴ ProN W3 - it comes on all Macs anyway) and making forms of yi, ye, wu, etc. in there based on all the examples I saw of the more font-like ones. I'm almost done, so I think I'll just finish it... I want to have a "font" look instead of a "brush script" look because I'm showing the rest of the hiragana and katakana in font, haha.
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